28 thoughts on “We Won! And That’s 101% Guaranteed!

  1. Milosevic won by 104% to 34% in his last election, so this is nothing special for such countries. :)
    Anything interesting in the article?

  2. Dewey defeats Truman.

    Imagine what the percentages had been if it hadn’t been for the 43% abstention vs. the 58% participation.

    I’m glad that math skills are prerequisites for editors in Venezuela.

  3. Alas, I tried to enter to their site now but, unlike The Economist, Spiegel or El País, you have to get a subscription upfront in order to enjoy even a tiny bit of their wisdom.
    You don’t get that quality journalism for free!

  4. The head captions assumption is that all non psuv votes where for the mud but the fact is that part of those non psuv votes went to pcv tupamaro candidates (that cannot really be counted as oppo votes) and part to non mud votes which where oppo votes (like those gato bricenos votes in Monagas ). I wonder what the exact split between oppo / oppo leaning votes and psuv or regime leaning votes actually was . I would imagine that given the regimes possession of a well resourced ‘bring them to vote’ machinery and the oppos comparatively weak machinery the absentee votes might have been more on the oppo side than on the regime side . But dont know whether are other factors that made the absenteeism higher for one side than for the other .

    • Eugenio Martínez did the breakdown of the non-MUD and the non -PSUV Votes.

      According to his math the government got 55.31% of the vote and the MUD 44.69 of the vote.

        • Talk about burying the lede! It takes Puzkas NINETEEN PARAGRAPHS before he gets around to telling us – el PSUV y sus aliados recibieron 5.749.741 votos, mientras la MUD y sus aliados tienen 4.645.380 sufragios.”

          • Thus, the difference claimed by Maduro actually turned out to be accurate and we are the ones doing the math Eljuri style.

            • I really wish I had the inside scoop on that Puzkas story. The guy, though prone to a certain level of self-important douchebaggery, is basically a serious journo. Part of me is sure he had that tip way higher up the page and had the powers that be deepsixed it into the hoary netherregions of paragraph 19. O sea, that’s not normal!

              • Probably. I know journalist who had worked in el Universal and have heard of this kind of editing. It’s very ironic that most political annalists in Venezuela, who are as convinced as the MUD that the solution is electoral are downplaying that the results were a regression, that Chávez was not that necessary to get this type of lead by the govt.

              • The papers have been making the obvious point that the result can be painted as a plus or minus for the oppo depending on which details you pick. Clearly this is a minus. But given the possibility of selective abstention I wonder if those total numbers really matter so much, I mean was it really a plebiscite? Or did people vote where it “mattered”, where they knew their vote would really make a difference. I would compare turnouts and margins of victory city-by-city rather than totals.

                Of course, if the totals favored the oppo I would be whistling a different tune … ;>)

              • I’m not really concerned with who “won” or “lost” – I think it’s a meaningless discussion about a meaningless election, as I’ve argued again and again here.

                I’m concerned with El Universal basically hiding their main electoral analyst’s main finding to keep from bursting their readers ideological bubbles. THAT, gro, is fucked.

  5. In general, Venezuela has dispensed with objective facts. The nation seems to exist in some fuzzy state of quantum indeterminacy in which no question can be answered definitively or with a simple “Yes” or “No”. Even binary numbers do not exist in a pure form. There is no “0” or “1”. There are only some undefined and irrational numbers in between 0 and 1. I do not see why mathematical rigor should be of any concern in a country that cannot seem to agree that A=A.

  6. I don’t know, local elections were never totally in sync with the presidential vote distribution. So I think it’s futile to try to see here how PSUV is faring vs. MUD. Didn’t people vote opposition for mayor and or governor and then still voted by Chavez? The opposition tried to make this an evaluation of Maduro’s government but I don’t know if people really bought into that. I am not saying is not bad, but I don’t know that it’s that bad.

    • I would guess that people voted along party lines, but it is of course possible that whom you elect for president versus local honcho need not belong to the same party, same as in the USA republicans may take mayor (Giuliani) or governorships (Schwarzenneger) in otherwise blue states, and vice-versa.

  7. OT: It may be worth digging up exactly how many viceroys do we have in Venezuela. In Caracas, besides the elected regular mayors and the Metropolitan mayor, there are the appointed Head of Government of the Capital District and the appointed Minister for the Transformation of Greater Caracas.

    Apparently, there’s a new one in South Valencia:

    http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/actualidad/politica/crean-autoridad-unica-de-area-para-el-estado-carab.aspx

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