30 thoughts on “Winning with Twitter

  1. Beyond the witnesses at every table, would the CNE allow any of that? Live Twitter results? A Google spreadsheet with the sum? Maybe here the lessons are for the Egyptian electoral board

    • La pelea es peleando, and when the time comes, pressure is pressure.

      (Of course, we’d have to win first…)

    • The CNE can not refuse oppo witness. The law continues to be clear in that respect. What it does is migrate voters, so known oppo activist from a given parroquia are suddenly moved to another, thus disrupting witness-logistics platform. Maisanta at work.

      But is not the CNE we should be worrying about. It is the MUD, and ensuring that every polling station is covered, for the CNE is not going to organise it for us. We have to do this. It’s our only chance of replicating what Egyptians have just done.

      My fear is that the MUD and assorted politicos are, as ever, cuidando la parcelita. What happens beyond the tip of their noses, read rural Venezuela, of little of no interest to most of them. When we see the MUD, ojo not HCR but the MUD, doing the rounds around the country and setting up electoral witness committees everywhere, we can at least feel that Chavez will have either to win with votes or admit what he is.

      Is that happening? I ain’t seen it. Has anyone? Please do share.

  2. This is a great idea.

    I know quite a few witnesses (myself included) that tweet / Facebook live results right after the count. The only way to stop that is to cut the wires, which they can totally do.

    The real challenges to overcome are the technologically impaired carcamanes who coordinate the witnesses, and the serpent’s nest that dick-wagging technology “consultants” create at the heart of the comando de campaña.

    Now *that* you cannot solve with google docs.

  3. I don’t think it will change anything, Quico. You’ll have a chavista group providing some data and a MUD group providing other data. In Egypt maybe it worked because the government was taken by surprise, but the chavistas are very well aware of the power of the social media.

    It was the same thing that happened in the RR and in 2006 but without twitter. Everybody had info on what was going on and the info did not correspond with the results.

    The problem with elections is that it is a matter of trust. When at 8 o’clock at election night we have the Radio Canada anchorman saying “if the tendency is maintained, Radio Canada predicts that the next government will be…..” nobody doubts the results. Why? Because we do not doubt the system.

    There is no twitting one way or another that will make me believe more the results. Quite the opposite. I have seen how artificial campaigns start on twitter. I have singled several accounts that are responsible to start the spinning on particular issues, so I would be very reluctant to trust twitter results.

    • Kinda sad that there’s not a Venezuelan Bernard Derome neither. That’s how electoral results should be announced on TV.

      • Bernard Derome most dramatic moment, for him, for Quebec and for the Rest of Canada, and yet he was able to give the results at 10h20 p.m. in a very professional manner.

        Watch it: it shows why we are in civilized country. I cannot imagine this happening anywhere else and everybody being so calm the day after.

    • In Canada, political parties have scrutineers in every polling station. When the vote is counted, individual results are phoned in to campaign headquarters. Almost always, the campaign is ahead of the CBC in terms of what has happened.

      We trust the result they announce because we already have it.

      • In Venezuela there are “buccaneers’ in many polling stations, and one can never trust the result.

  4. The MUD prirority is one thing, execution is another. It won’t be easy to witness, in addition to the 32M previously existing voting stations, “9 mil mesas mas, en su mayoria ubicadas en refugios, organismos oficiales (incluyendo guarniciones militares) zonas rurales apartadas y en ” centros itinerantes” .” Also, it wont be easy to vote for “cerca de un millon de venezolanos mudados a otros centros, por lo general distantes y chavistas”.(Marta Colomina, “El Universal”, Domingo, 24 de Junio, 2012, P.4-5). BUT, the popular voting tide is changing, and sooner or later , one way or the other, Chavez and his Criminal Enterprise will be OUT!!!

    • No mention of “moderation” when I originally posted. First time ever. What’s to moderate??–The TRUTH?? [Talk to the spam filter -ed]

      • O.K. Spam Filter-ed., say you’re “Moderating” from the beginning and avoid the commentator confusion and loss of time.

  5. Just a test.I’ve been blocked 4 times from commenting here today. Could have been comment content, or…

  6. I’ve been blocked 5 times – I’ll try code:A quote from MC”s last Sundays “El Un” article, P.4-5. Summation: 32M pre-existing voting centers +9m hard-to-control new centers in: Govt. installations, military installations, out-of-the way rural, “itinerary” (“catch-me-if-you-can”). Plus migration of near 1 million probably Oppo voters to distant and Chavista voting stations. Just part of the huge task for the Oppo (and Lugo was deposed for nothing by comparison to this and innumerable other transgressions/crimes!!!).

  7. Here in Venezuela by 9 PM the candidates’ HQ know the election results. After each mesa is closed, each of the witnesses receive a copy of the results, and then the head of the polling center compiles them and afterwards he sends it to the HQ. This is all done by 6, 7 PM. One, two or three hours later we know if we won or we lost. I know it because even though I’m only 20 years old, I’ve been involved in three elections (two primaries and the legislative election). But also remember that announcing the election results before the Electoral Council does is heavily fined, not only here but also in places like France, where they do it using codes (the midget for Sarkozy, Flanby for Hollande, etc.). What Egyptians did there is not new and I’m sure could be easily done here.

  8. There have been times Venezuelans haven’t officially known the election results until 11/12PM and later, until Chavez kicks the table in disgust and is threatened by the Military (Baduel, once, a lesser figure-can’t remember the name-last time), and even then the final results still haven’t been announced today in some cases.

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