78 thoughts on “More docu-ads from the Capriles campaign

  1. It’s OK.
    Capriles should avoid starting a sentence with “osea”. He must, generally speaking, improve his use of syntax.

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      • Osea, Kepler, tu eres un experto en todo! Por casualidad, eres diplomado en sociolinguistica? In any case, HCR really sounds like a people person in this docu-ad – his discourse, dialect, and message will appeal to the criollos in Rio Chico, La Guaira, and Ocumare de la Costa.

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        • Well, Pipo, I don’t need to be an expert, but just get out a little bit out of your Greater Caracas area.
          Río Chico is in Miranda. La Guaira is in Vargas (which is, basically, part of Greater Caracas).
          And actually: I very much doubt Ocumare de la Costa people say that, unless it’s people who moved there from Greater Caracas because they wanted to set up a shop next to coast or so.
          You really don’t see it, do you? Carajo, traten de alejarse más de 150 kilómetros de Chacao y presten atención!

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          • Totalmente de acuerdo Kepler! Ese osea es caraqueño y uno puede hablar con la gente de cualquier barrio o caserio con lenguage claro y sin el osea…no subestimes a la gente que vive en los caserios o barrios…quizas muchos de ellos no han tenido la oportunidad de tener una educacion…pero el problelma es que sus prioridades son distintas por esa falta de oportunidad. Hay que darle las herramientas para que se superen y ese mensaje se puede darle en simples y claras palabras sin muchos osea

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    • wasn’t me, but ‘osea’ links Capriles with his largest target base. Osea, la mayoría usan ese término. Hasta la coronilla, lamentablemente.

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      • I disagree, Syd. People who say “osea” are rather in groups B and A, some C. Definitely not in D and E outside Caracas.

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        • Look: Capriles’ pronunciation is excellent for the target base he needs now but he needs to work on the syntax, which should be clearer. No matter what sociodialect you use, you need to keep a proper structure: right verb form for subject, clear subject, predicate, object.

          You can use fillers, but “osea” is one not used specially by the poor outside Greater Caracas. I have heard it in Valencia and I remember people making jokes it but I don’t remember people from the poorest areas in Valencia or in El Tocuyo or in Coro saying osea. A malandro in Caracas? Perhaps…but so many upper-middle to middle class people in Caracas.

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          • Look, Kepler. The country is in a shambles. Capriles has so much to do, before 7O, to go where the chavismo has only pretended to do so, to highlight the government’s 13-year BS, eo demonstrate some of his hand-on work style, and to educate interested parties in what one or several roll-outs will be. That’s a lot of work. I wouldn’t want to tax Capriles’ natural style with diction lessons at this point. If HCR is comfortable in dealing with people in a certain way, and he delivers with a high index of credibility for post 7O (assuming his win), that’s good enough for me.

            Delivery over style, any day of the week.

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            • But to win a campaign delivery is very important. Its fundamental that Capriles learns how to express himself better in the campaign, to convey a simple message to the swing voters of why they should vote for him. I know this sounds Machiavellian, but winning a campaign its more about brains and strategy than morals.

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          • Syd,
            I want Capriles to win.
            You should pay attention about how most winners in presidential elections speak – from the US to – yes, Venezuela. It doesn’t have to do with proper Spanish/English/Tibetan per se. It has to do with being able to speak in a manner that has a certain rhythm, a certain structure, a manner that makes people – the average José Rodríguez and María González from Punto Fijo or Maturín, want to listen to him and say: “that’s the man”, he has a story, he has a vision.
            Unfortunately, that’s real politics. I want him to deliver, but firstly I want him to win. He has the right pronunciation – very average -, but he needs that rhetorical part.

            That does not have to do with formal education. There are good story tellers and people with “proper” sentences, whether they say “haiga” and “la calor” or not…whether they are from Sabaneta, from El Tigre or Caracas.

            If he can improve in that, he will do a lot for his chances of winning over those people.

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          • Kepler, Would you mind saying more about how HCR can make his syntax “clearer”? Do you know the definition of syntax?

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            • He can coordinate subject with predicate. He can use dependent clauses that are properly connected to the main clause, stuff like that.
              Chávez does it. A good story teller in Calabozo or Washington does it.
              Do you know the definition of syntax?
              Here there is no real example, just the use of an osea not used outside your world by people of class C-, D and E, but I have heard him in other occasions. He is a thousand times better than Rosales, but still he needs to be able to use the right pronouns and other anaphoric means. He needs to dare tell stories. He should keep his sentences simple and yet develop an argument. To do that he needs content, an actual story and he needs to mind the times I just mentioned. You don’t need to go to university to do that. You just need to train in telling stories, preferably you listen to other story tellers and ideally you actually read books.

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            • Kepler, Your misinformed pedantry never ceases to amaze me. Where in this docu-ad does Capriles not coordinate subject with predicate? Where are dependent clauses not connected with main clauses, which, by the way, run counter to your argument of making sentences simple?
              FYI, using “osea” outside your world is *not* an example of a syntactic issue. And using anaphoric constructs is certainly a way to, again, ensure that your discourse is not “simple”.
              You need to get off your high horse (en criollo: bájate de la mula!) and give HCR credit for a very good docu-ad.

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            • El Pipo, I think you need to read what I wrote

              “Here there is no real example , just the use of an osea not used outside your world by people of class C-, D and E,”

              As I said there, the issues with coordination etc are not from this video, there is very little talking in this video, so it is almost impossible to make an error in sentence construction. What did come up very clearly at the start was the osea. He does have a problem with syntax when getting into a real discourse.
              He is much better than other oppo politicians but still he needs to improve.

              Whatever, man. Just listen to whatever you want to listen.

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            • then you have a winning Jesus Christ. The last president from Caracas was Guzmán Blanco, who was rather good in knowing what people in Calabozo and Maturín thought and how they spoke, not only in Guatire or Maracaibo.

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            • Just over two months ago, 3 million said: “we don’t care how you speak, Capriles, we believe in you, and we trust you’ll work towards putting this country (back) together.

              Proportionally speaking, and for the times, I suspect that Guzmán Blanco could only dream of achieving a similar acceptance. Ooops, I forgot. GB was a caudillo and an autocrat.

              #failed comparison

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            • Syd,
              Not every person in this country, specially the ones who are deciding the election, think that the country needs to be put together or consider Chavez a dictator. And precisely Capriles’s speech should be directed towards them.
              I think he is doing a good job and I believe in him, but we have to drop the triumphalism, the opposition is going to have to work its ass off to win this. If only good guys won elections we had a pretty different history and world.

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            • Oh, Syd, what kind of reasoning that is?
              We got 3 million, thus?
              My point is: Caraquenos haven’t got to power for a long while…and even when back then it was during times when the media and open discourses didn’t matter much and still Guzmán Blanco was aware of the regional issues.
              This is really depressing…completely irrational, guys…keep on congratulating about how wonderful the opposition is doing…and then organise a big party in El Cafetal…and in Barlovento, to show you know the rest of Venezuela.

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    • Let’s focus on the positives. There he was, in Amuay, Caja de Agua or Las Piedras, right by the big Creole-built refinery, telling people that under his government, the Gobernacion would supply the construction materials and folks would build their own homes. House by house, tambora by tambora. Not bad, and better than OK.

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      • Welll, that was good indeed.

        I still stand for what I said. I want someone who is not from the big 4 cities or close to Greater Caracas to give his opinion on this.
        Just search in youtube for “Chavez imita a Maria Corina”.
        And it hasn’t been Chávez alone. I have seen people from different places, from very humble origins, making fun of the osea.
        I want to say here what he needs to improve on, not just pad on his shoulder.
        We can’t be second best in this race.

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        • We specially need to abandon the mentality that we are going to win because we are right. Most people don’t see the country as we do, nor do they consider Chavez a dictator. And considering the numbers, there is nor margin for errors. I like the ad, but I think he can still improve his communication skills.

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    • Indeed he should. It’s one of these fillers that broadcast “Sifrino del Este de Caracas” to anyone hearing.

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  2. Wow. good video — content and production wise. Credibility is high from the political and (future) roll-out point of view.

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  3. From a person who desperately wants and needs a change to occur in Venezuela this video was very moving. It evokes a hope for a change.

    The question is who will see this video? Certainly not the VTV group.
    The truth is that those who need to see it will not.

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  4. It is really disheartening that after decades of high income from oil, especially during the last 14 years, there are quite a few places in Venezuela that look like this, I am sure. There is no excuse. This clearly shows what is the thing that politicians, red or not, want when they run for office. IMHO, this is the most important conclusion that can be extracted from the video.

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  5. I liked it, pretty much the same than the previous ones. I like the people pointing out their problems out loud: “los huecos, los huecos”, “nos engan/aron con unas lavadoras”. The drums are awesome too.
    But I must admit, the “o sea”, as opening line as Kepler points out, made me shrink. Too sifrino to my ears. I should add it’s something that happens to me with every Venezuela I hear using the word, or the phrase:”o sea, entiendes?” and things like that. We have to stop acting like everybody needs an explanation for everything, o sea…
    I just hope he never uses the term “aperturar”.

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    • To you, Juan…and I am sure to Francisco and to all the other people here whose natural habitat is Eastern Caracas or Northern Valencia or similar places.

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        • He is maracucho and there is nothing wrong with that, really. Just 1) he spent a lot of time in Caracas and 2) not elsewhere in Venezuela. Hell, in Northern Valencia we also use the osea a lot, but it really is one thing people from a lot of other regions make fun of.

          I doubt someone who has somehow strong links with some other places outside Caracas-Valencia-Maracaibo-Barquisimeto (and beyond an hacienda or a summer house in Margarita) would have the opinion some people have here.

          It is not a bad thing in itself to use osea, but people from C-V-M-B should really try to be more aware of the differences!

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          • I keep hearing sifrino accent from the Venezuelan diaspora, not so much here in Chile, but in the US, even in English!

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  6. uuuyyy, pero qué horrrrorrr es el modo de hablar de Capriles … ni se entiende ;-)

    HCR: … osea, lo que yo quiero es que nosotros sembremos en las comunidades, donde no va naadie, que nosotros fuimos … donde no vaa naaadie.

    (coro, tambores, Capriles baila, se mueve dentro de la comunidad, rodeado de gente, explorando sus alrededores y escuchando lo que le dicen…)

    Fulana: aqui nadie ha mandado material para su casa … engañaron con lavadora, nevera ..

    HCR: este programa que yo tengo, de allá, eso lo podemos traer para acá. Qué cómo funciona? Bueno, la gobernación da los materiales de construcción, y tú construyes.

    (nuevamente Capriles muestra como se mueve de un lado para otro, dentro de la comunidad, y discute los problemas con sus ciudadanos,)

    Fulana 2: … todos somos venezolanos … tenemos derecho a vivienda digna …

    HCR: este es un país que tiene muchos recursos, y fíjate como está la carretera ….

    Fulana 3 (con cartel en la mano): los hueeecos! los hueeecos!

    HCR: … los servicios públicos, la luz, el agua, todo eso…

    Fulana 4: la electrificación. de noche, esto es una boca de lobos.

    HCR: tenemos que empujar entre todos.

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  7. If the concern is how well this plays to the Chavista crowd, the Osea doesn’t matter because the whole spot lacks working class vibe: from Capriles himself, to the people walking with him, and how they are dressed. To a Chavista it looks exactly like what it actually is: a poor attempt to *appear* popular. It’s as obvious to them as a Chavista equivalent would be to you.

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  8. If HCR is to be percieved as a genuine guy (and I think he needs to) he should speak the way he speaks. Is what he says what counts. He needs to speak in plain,simple and intelligible Spanish and he does.The moment he starts speaking the way “smart political advisors” want him to speak his political career is done. People are not dumb…they know he’s from Caracas, They know his family is well off, They know he studied in the U.S. The point is.. SO WHAT?. They want him genuine, true to himself, truly venezuelan, and truly caring for all venezuelans. They don’t want him to pretend he’s from Tucupita.
    If people in Venezuela wanted their candidtes to be sound “pueblerinos” Rafael Caldera wouldn’t have won two elections.

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    • Caldera was never particularly popular as a politician. He won his first election by a very narrow margin and the second one by a very opportunistic support of the 1992 coups. And in this media age public speaking is much more important than in the times of politicians like Romulo Betancourt.
      Yo apoyo a Capriles, su campaña, su mensaje y sus esfuerzos. Pero tampoco nos volvamos acríticos y ataquemos a cualquiera que quiera hacer una observación a la campaña, si no miren a quien nos vamos a terminar pareciendo. Esta elección no está perdida, pero tampoco ganada y hay que echarle un cerro de bolas.

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      • 1000% de acuerdo..la eleccion no esta ganada. Lo que yo me pregunto es cuando los venezolanos nos empezemos a fijar en lo substancial y no lo superficial…el dia que la mayoria de los veenzolanos tenga conciencia de eso, Venezuela empezara a echar pa’ lante….

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        • Estoy de acuerdo, aunque también hay que considerar que privilegiar la forma sobre la sustancia es un mal que aqueja a la política en muchas partes, sobre todo después del advenimiento de esta era digital. Por eso mencioné a Rómulo Betancourt, quizá en la era de hoy un político indudablemente brillante como él no podría aspirar a ser Presidente.

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          • Completamente de acuerdo…en todas partes del mundo esta pasa, no solo en la politica pero en muchos aspectos de la vida cotidiana.

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            • Exacto, en los ambientes laborales, entrevistas de trabajo y en muchos otros sitios se reproduce la preferencia de forma sobre la sustancia.
              Pienso que a Betancourt hoye en día lo mandarían a hacer un curso de oratoria (según entiendo no hablaba muy bien) a cambiarse los trajes y quitarse los lentes.
              Hasta Chávez es una creación mediática, obvio que tiene talento natural para la oratoria, pero lo enseñaron a hablar mejor, lo vistieron con trajes caros y hasta una esposa catira le buscaron para hacerlo más aaceptable entre ciertos grupos.
              Cuando uno quita la astucia o “viveza criolla” de Chávez, desde un punto de vista intelectual sus ideas son risibles, pero a la hora de ganar una campaña eso es practicamente irrelevante. En México tienes a Peña Nieto, el hombre que ha escrito mas libros de los que ha leído(1), pero lidera las cuentas porque es atractivo y está casado con una actriz de televisión famosa.

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    • I fully agree. I really like this ad. It is so refreshing to see a venezuelan politician moving around, listening, and being open, rather than standing like a lump and talking like an angry parrot. The symbolism of the location is great. Wouldn’t hurt some folks in the eastern part of caracas to see it either.

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  9. Kepler, your pedantry knows no limits. You think you know chavismo by account of having a chavista aunt. It’s good that venezuelans like you have left the country.

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    • Whatever Yohnny. If you don’t even know where people use “osea” as a filler…
      I have spent more time in the countryside than probably you in Venezuela.

      How do you know Venezuela? By eating ice cream in El Cafetal?

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      • no es por nada, Kep, pero tú si que tienes un complejo. Tomaste la dósis de hoy?
        Bueno, arza, puej.
        Osea, can we just move on from the Contest for ‘who-has-spent-the-most-time-in-rural-Venezuela’?

        PS. A few years ago, I picked up the osea habit from a Caracas expat in Toronto. A first cousin pointed out my then recent bad habit, which surprised him, for he always thought I had better grammar, etc, than that. I stopped using oseas, conscious — at the beginning — of the change. Today, as a reformed osea user, I don’t have a problem hearing it in others. True, it’s not a particularly elevated expression, or necessary. But I’m not going to get hung up on those who do, when their multiple, proven qualities outshine their more limited vocabulary.

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        • Syd, te faltó decir “lo que tienes es un resentimiento social”.

          Osea can or cannot be a bad habit, it is a clear marker of a group, but you don’t even realise that. It is a very frequent reference for people trying to make fun of the María Corinas of this world. Chávez himself used it a couple of times to make fun of her, but it has a long history…if you just listen to people who are not frequent flyers to Canada or who spend most of their time in Eastern Caracas. Geez, I live thousands of miles away from Venezuela, but it seems to me I have a little bit more contact with those outside your little community. Is that arrogant? Be it but it is pertinent: the issue here is not about content, but about how to improve the message.

          And the style does matter.

          Capriles has done so far a good job but just saying “everything is nice” and “we are focusing on the most important” is rubbish.

          And it is absolutely wrong to say – but that is another topic – that Capriles should not try to build a better story telling. You don’t need to imitate Chávez, speak “rough” or “nice”, but develop a narrative. You need to be able to speak for 5 full minutes about a complete story – a vision, a message.

          Don’t cover with “I prefer to pay more attention to the real message, to the delivery”, etc.

          I support Capriles and have done so from the start. But it’s not going to be you in Canada or me in Europe who are going to decide the election.

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  10. Docu-ad is the word. Awesome stuff, it’s scary to think of the day this kind of production craftsmanship gets into the wrong hands.

    In any case, awesome ad.

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  11. Perhaps the most important conclusion that we can make from this docu-ad is the fact that after decades of high income from oil, especially during the last 13 years, people have not benefited much. It is really disheartening to witness the conditions in which those people live. It is clear that they bear some responsibility, but the bulk of it resides in those that are supposed to lead. However, politicians of the past and the present day thugs that “govern” Venezuela have been and are interested in one thing and one thing only. This explains why the country is in shambles. I like HCR and I think he is doing a good job, but he needs to inject fire into his campaign. I would like to see this guy making Hugo scared, to really feel that his opponent can take power from him because people are persuaded that HCR can do it infinitely better than him. Any other consideration about this docu-ad seems banal and superficial.

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  12. Señores, nos jodimos.
    SI uds no pueden aceptar una crítica válida y se empeñan en pensar que las elecciones las ganamos sin necesidad de esa gente, están bien pelaos, coño. Dejar de decir osea no lo va a matar y le quita un problema de encima. Las elecciones están dificiles, carajo, every little, tiny, itty bitty bit of improvement will help.

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    • Can you demonstrate that the use of the word is actually hurting him in the polls and that people will warm to him more if stops using it in the country-side? Can you demonstrate that people won’t take it as a condescending attitude and thus have the opposite reaction? My particular problem with the 30 odd comments on the word “osea” is that while the critique may be valid it’s been advanced as a given that it WILL hurt him. I haven’t seen proof one way or another that it helps or hinders.

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      • Agree with your line of questioning. Moreover because a tempest in a teacup was created on the basis of ONE (1) BARELY AUDIBLE “osea”.

        If Capriles were to use oseas multiple times in a given speech, I could understand the overarching concern. But this was the first time I heard him say an osea.

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      • Well, no, I cannot prove it. However, as Kepler said, Chávez and others made fun of MCM because of the sifrino accent. And their narrative is El Pueblo Vs. la Burguesía. Don’t give them credibility.
        Avoiding a single word is condescending? give me a break. That’s even harder to prove than what Kepler and I are saying

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        • I’m going to go out on a limb and say that of all the reasons MCM did not prosper as a presidential candidate her accent paled in importance to her message, platform and lack of a serious political machine behind her. Like they say in the cell phone commercials: Really?

          I think someone else has already properly expressed it avoiding using the word as: do you want to come off as phoney? (that’s a possiblity) People already KNOW where he comes from and they KNOW how people there talk. You’re worried about people making fun of HCR’s way of speaking? Let me tell you something, EVERYONE in the country makes fun of how everyone else talks elsewhere. People in Maracaibo make fun of People in Caracas and vice-versa. Both make fun of Gochos. In Punto Fijo they make fun of Margariteños. And of course there’s the Orientarrrr. Do you want HCR to change his accent and way of speaking in each individual region?

          As I said, it’s not enough for me to have you simply declare it’s bad. If you’re going to propose changing a guy’s style and language (when he’s already having a hard time delivering his message) you want definitely want to be able to proove that it is a) Currently damaging his image at the polls and b) Taking the time and effort to make a change will result in significant gains at the polls. Otherwise you’re drowning in the lexical teacup as Juan is saying.

          Again, the critique is certainly valid, but I’m put off by the level of discourse that’s close to badgering. It makes me wonder if the importance you suscribe to it is more of how YOU view it than how everyone else in the country side views it. You obviously care enough, find some data to make the case compelling.

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          • SIgh.
            It’s not just “making fun”. Their whole campaign is based on claiming Capriles is opposed to the people, The Other.

            I said, drop a single word. At least he has no mandibuleo. And I am saying that every little bit counts. The election will be close, anything we can do helps.

            As for me? All I have is anecdotal evidence, and a couple of youtube videos. I recognize it, but in my experience that kind of language is used to talk about people with money and out of touch with the rest of Venezuelans. Go for it if you want.

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      • Francisco – honestly, this argument is going way too far and away from what I interpreted as Kepler’s original post. “O sea” is a muletilla commonly used by sifrinos, as simple as that, and some of us believe he should drop it to avoid Chavez and his followers mocking him as he did with MCM. Que no se las ponga tan facilita carrizo!

        In my opinion, there is one other word worse than that. He used it recently and I understand that for many (too many) Venezuelans that have never cared to open a dictionary has a different meaning and it could hurt his international image (maybe not important for you and I, but in his case I believe it should matter) which is “arrecha”. He said that MCM was arrecha. I would bet that MCM got at least a couple of emails from mexicans guys offering to cure the arrechera! In any case, that is a word that believe he should never use again, regardless of the Venezuelan connotation.

        Just an example comes to mind: Colombians say “hijo e’pu..” all the time, but you have never heard Santos saying it publicly, right?

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        • Quizas vale la pena que recordemos a “Las Muñoz Marin salen de comPras” de Aquiles Nazoa para que nos veamos en ese espejo.
          O sea…

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          • comiquísimo (lo de AN).
            entiendo muy bien que un político (y abogado) debe tener mucha cautela en su verbo. Y vale la pena que Caprilito lo tenga en mente. Sin embargo, no es ningún Herrera Campins.

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        • I just have a really hard time believing it’s THAT critical. I’d love to see some polling data that backs it up. This is also based on his one barely audible use of the word. In any case Kep was the one whose feathers got ruffled when he started replying to himself challenging folks for the thumbs down. I still think he came on too strong especially since none of you can actually prove it’s a real problem. If the election really does boil down to “muletillas” as you say we’ve got far bigger problems.

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  13. HCR won’t beat Chavez on “labia” or rethoric. Not only because public speaking is not Capriles’ natural gift but because very few people can take on Chavez in that arena. Capriles needs to connect with Ni-ni’s and Chavistas to win the election. But if he poses as someone he’s not, and -worse yet- he does it just to win the vote from “ESA GENTE” (as some previous posts call them), he’ll lose miserably. People from the Venezuelan barrios, pueblos and caserios have developed a quite sophisticated sense of smell. They can tell fake from genuine from miles away. So, the only way to apeal to them is to truly care for them. And I think Capriles conveys genuine care the way he is. With his “o seas” and everything. And yes, I think marketing and forms are important in a short campign. But, marketing itself teaches that if you don’t have a relevant, compelling, different and credible promise to make, no matter how beautiful your package, you won’t win market share.
    All this to say I love the video campaign. This one video in particular lacks the emotion of previous ones, though. But what I like about the campaign the most is HCR is challenging Chavez at his own game. Chavez has always been a master at denouncing injustice (and even speaking as president he talks like he’s in the opposition, and still convinces people!!, it’s crazy). But these videos implicitly say: “Chavez, you’re no longer the plaintiff but the defendant”, and, most importantly, they say: “genuine care for the needs of poor people is not an exclusive trait of hard line socialists or revolucionarios trasnochados”. Sort of like you don’t have to be black to fight racism. By the same token, you don’t have to come from rural venezuela (or from a poor family, for that matter) to be a great president in a country where the vast majorities are poor.

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  14. I don’t like Capriles’ solution of handing out materials and asking people to build their own houses and their own environment.

    Yes, it sounds nice, it sounds like a short-term solution for someone living in extreme poverty, but it is an anti-goverment policy and a quick fix. “I give you the material, don’t bother me with the rest”.

    I don’t think that is what is good for the country and what would make people feel there is a change.

    Much more effective would be a national construction policy in which the people from the community could be hired as workers, under the supervision of qualified civil engineers and architects and where people should be given credits to improve their homes, based on urbanistic rules.

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    • I think it has positive sides too, while not the best engineering and architectural solution, it is “We give you the materials, you do the work” “we need you to go forward too” “This is not a gift, this is your work”. And probably you can hand a lot more of material to more people this way. Well, maybe it’s because I dream of building my home myself ;)

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    • Bruni:

      Auto-construction is absolutely feasible and works very well when planned properly. It also respects that many times, these people like their houses, the area they live in and they just don’t have money to improve them or make them better.

      We also have to consider local resources and materials. For example, in Merida there is more stone than concrete, and locals know how to use it better. Same thing applies to Adicora y Paraguana, where they make the “techos de torta” and/or paint them white to reflect the heat. There is a lot that the qualified engineers and architects you name could learn from local construction systems.

      Another vivid example comes to mind: while visiting some indigenous communities in Puerto Ayacucho, I was quite surprised to see that these communities were basically houses built by Inavi, and most of them had a churuata built in the back yard. The people lived in the churuatas, and used the “nice” houses as storage spaces, some of them as a little store to sell their crafts and “artesania”. They found them too hot and didn’t respond to their familiar structure. Obviously there was a BIG cultural gap between those “qualified” and the locals.

      Going back to auto-construction, the most difficult part is to build the roof. For those that don’t have housing, give them a good durable roof and structure, plumbing services, and the rest, let them build it to suit their needs. Let then the government and local community centers supervise that the job gets done and finished, and voila.

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    • I want to see a joint effort. I want to know that the government can give raw materials, but that the citizen will put ‘de su parte’. Otherwise, too many hand-outs with no direction or stimulus becomes a precursor to an indigent population. And the idea is to get away from pure hand-outs (which over the past number of years, seem to have been a quid pro quo between foreign industry and the government).

      I only hope that each community will have their building committee, fully transparent and accessible, so that it becomes a place to gain building advice and education, or to receive complaints.

      And yes, I agree with Carolina. Climate differences, soil conditions and drainage aspects may not be respected by a one-size-fits-all construction policy. This type of policy, cobbled together by ‘outsiders’, would likely focus on obtaining efficiencies of scale, rather than respecting the individual terrain, best known to the inhabitants of that terrain.

      It would be better to have inhabitants of each community be responsible for creating a feasible plan, on which members of the community would receive some instruction, and for submitting that plan for approval by the committee (which would include an engineer).

      Anyway, that’s how I see it.

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  15. From RAE
    def. # 6. o sea, Marca de incorrección.o séase. La locución o sea equivale a es decir y sirve para introducir una explicación o precisión sobre lo que se acaba de expresar, o la consecuencia que se deriva de ello: «Al día siguiente, o sea el lunes, me presenté […] en la embajada polaca» (Piglia Respiración [Arg. 1980]); «Ya no creo que vuelva, o sea que nos podemos vestir» (ASantos Vis [Esp. 1992]). No es correcta su escritura en una sola palabra: Marca de incorrección.«Flotan en tiempo de réquiem, osea, en cámara lenta» (Nacional [Ven.] 11.4.97). Se trata de una locución fija y, por tanto, invariable en el español actual, por lo que conviene evitar el uso concordado cuando lo que sigue a ser es un sustantivo plural: Marca de incorrección.«La épica travesía dura setenta días, o sean mil seiscient[a]s ochenta horas» (Tibón Aventuras [Méx. 1986]). La variante Marca de incorrección.o séase, usada a veces en el habla popular, debe evitarse en la lengua culta: Marca de incorrección.«—Y también a los hijos de los hijos de los hijos. —O séase los biznietos» (MtnSantos Tiempo [Esp. 1961]). No es obligatorio escribir coma detrás de esta locución, aunque es lo normal cuando introduce una explicación o paráfrasis del elemento precedente; por el contrario, si lo que introduce es una consecuencia, no suele ir seguida de coma.

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